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Title: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: secrets on December 30, 2009, 08:30:41 AM
i have spent hundred and hundreds of $$$ on hypnosis, accupuncture,healing,pills,Zyban,Alan Carr method,etc etc and nothing has worked for me.
Has anyone found anything that really works apart from determined will power.?


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: admin plant on January 03, 2010, 04:51:17 PM
Not putting the cigarette in your mouth usually works.

 :P


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: Tess on January 03, 2010, 08:35:53 PM
very funny lol x


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: secrets on January 05, 2010, 08:09:50 AM

Strange people ! not at all funny. :(


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: cg72 on January 05, 2010, 02:04:51 PM
Have you tried the e-cig?  Lots of people seem to swear by it.  Ok, so you will still be hooked to the nicotine, but won't be inhaling any of the other cancer causing gunk


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: secrets on January 05, 2010, 03:13:49 PM
Thankyou cg72,i am going to try them as i hear the success rate for completely stopping is helped enormously by e-cigs.


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: Tess on January 05, 2010, 08:44:56 PM
I am laughing at Admin's response.  As an ex smoker - that is what I had to do  - not put a cigarette in my mouth!!! it worked - and it was the pits!!  

What is an e-cig?  I will  pass the info onto my husband.


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: admin plant on January 06, 2010, 03:50:06 PM
Smoke consciously
"This is a paraphrase and reference to information from Bill Harris. In order to stop smoking you must smoke consciously. Most people are trying to figure out why they smoke or how to stop, but all that is just a perpetual trap of the mind to distract you from seeing yourself. If you take an observers position and simply watch yourself smoke you will begin to see yourself from a larger perspective which gives you a position of power; rather than being a victim of “the nicotine monster”. When you can, try watching yourself smoke and see if it changes anything for you."


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: Tess on January 06, 2010, 04:01:23 PM
I smoked facing a wall outside in the freezing cold without a jumper on


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: cg72 on January 06, 2010, 08:03:57 PM
To Tess : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecig - basically it explains it all here.  It is a battery powered device made to simulate smoking, generally made to look like a cigarette with a nicotine cartridge, which as you inhale, allows you to breathe in nicotine.  It also gives off a water vapour i believe, that looks like smoke as you breathe out.  So in effect, you smoke it like a cigarette and blow out 'smoke' The end also glows as you breathe in to simulate the glowing end of a cigarette. Although you are still inhaling addictive nicotine, you are not inhaling any of the other zillion chemicals found in tobacco smoke.  i havent smoked for years so have never tried it, but a lot of people seem to find it helpful in giving up smoking


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: gypsygirl on January 06, 2010, 10:25:44 PM
If nothing worked for you, its because you really dont want to quit.  I quit for the last time a year ago by,  making a decision to quit and refusing to put another one in my mouth. 


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: Tess on January 06, 2010, 11:37:16 PM
I agree gypsy,  I just need to turn my face to the wall and think "what on earth am I doing" - whatever works .

Good night and God Bless
Tess xx


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: gypsygirl on January 07, 2010, 10:04:17 AM
Hi Tess,

Yes.  I used to think smoking helped me deal with stress.  Then I started to think about what it was doing to my health.  What was more important?  enjoying life or a few moments of pleasure.  It also helped me to see the habit for what it was.  My husband still smokes and I make him take it outside, regardless of the weather.   Good Luck


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: upgradereality on January 25, 2010, 09:16:53 PM
Make a commitment to your girlfriend or best friend to pay them $5 everytime you smoke. Then actually do this. You'll soon get sick of giving away money!


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: Tess on January 25, 2010, 11:33:01 PM
Nah, stand with your face to the wall in the freezing cold and have a full cigarette all by yourself - so boring.

Best regards,
Tess xxx


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: Rangeswar on January 27, 2010, 12:42:50 AM
"Secrets"; -I'm curious how you go with e-cigs. in my humble opinion, the most dangerous element of all with smoking is by far the carbon monoxide poisoning. i don't smoke, but if other techniques or suggestions relating to will power still failed me, e-cigs might likely be where i would start.   


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: Tess on January 27, 2010, 12:54:11 AM
talking to the wall !!!


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: Rangeswar on January 27, 2010, 03:17:31 AM
hypothetically, if i had given up on will power attempts in regards to smoking, and felt that Theresa's ("Tess's") advice sounded like it included too much will power for my liking, i would make an exception due to her re-assertion. Why? Because her encouragement has helped me out tremendously in the past couple of months since joining the forum. "Secrets", you may be very pleased that you made the effort!

From my experiences with advice from Theresa, i would be very cautious to underestimate what she has to say; -especially when she has the qualification of experience behind her.

i like the idea of e-cigs, because the logic makes the best sense i've heard outside creative will power. Nicotine is the likely addictive substance, so tackle that lastly. Firstly, however, eliminate the carbon monoxide poisoning immediately!!



Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: Rangeswar on January 27, 2010, 03:53:57 AM
My approach in a nutshell:

1. immediately trial e-cigs.

If the trial proved successful, then, to tackle the nicotine addiction:

2. trial talking to the wall!



Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: Rangeswar on January 27, 2010, 04:03:29 AM
I need to add:

If talking to the wall proved not to be my thing, i would likely borrow another (or best of all) customise my own creative will power technique!


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: Rangeswar on January 28, 2010, 02:07:07 AM
Sounds good JD. I've only just viewed the 7 minute video on EFT for the first time, after meaning to for a few days now.


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: Tess on March 25, 2010, 12:39:01 AM
Hi Secrets,

You have got it in one!  Willpower is the key, and we all have it to some degree but if we really focus we can achieve anything.  There is no body or no one will stop you doing what is not good for you but you.  No outside influence will help you - you must do it for yourself and stop looking to others to help you.  We control our own lives and we give our power to no one.  If we fail then it is our failure.  Seek within yourself and you will succeed.  We are all the same no better no worse than anyone else.

Check out Admin's response - he is absolutely right.........


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: Tess on March 25, 2010, 12:45:29 AM
Rangeswar,

I didn't talk to the wall, I smoked whilst looking at the wall! Smoking, looking at the wall, taking a puff, looking at the wall, nothing to enjoy but puffing away loads just to get back to normality!!  I felt ridiculous! and it was pouring with rain lol


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: Rangeswar on March 26, 2010, 07:53:23 AM
thanks for sharing your creative powers of will Tess. in australia, we have a well known cricketer from the 1970's called Doug Walters. he was very talented, but could not manage to conjuer up the will power to ever quit the heavy habit that he had. so much so that whilst he was on the cricket field, he said he could mainly only think about the next break; -namely the opportunity to smoke some cigarettes.

this year he was told to try laser EFT. he smoked about 40 cigarettes a day. all he could think about during the laser treatment was 'when will then treatment end so that i can have a cigarette?' but incredibly, when the treatment was over, he lost all desire to smoke at all; -and has never had the desire since. i thought that was impressive.


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: Tess on March 27, 2010, 12:25:21 AM
That is great news Rangeswar!


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: Diggy on April 20, 2010, 08:09:08 AM
NLP. Anchor smoking a cigarette to feeling realy ill. It can genuinely work but you need to do some studying or maybe even consult someone who has professional experience with NLP (neuro linguistic programming)


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: LizB on April 25, 2010, 10:36:19 AM
My daughter swears by Alan Carr''s method. But I found Nicorette worked for me. Now I can't even stand the smell of them! I did use Nicorette for ages though- at least 2 years. It was better than smoking because there are no poisons in it except for the nicotine itself which is a stimulant like caffeine, and it didn't smell! 


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: Dzierba on May 01, 2010, 03:02:02 AM
The hard part to quitting is getting past the first two weeks. You feel horrible through those 14 days. I feel that it's more smooth sailing after that. I don't mean to promote myself, but the smoking addictions article on my site is a great way to get started towards quitting smoking.


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: LizB on May 01, 2010, 04:08:15 AM
I think the thing to keep in mind is that you can never ever smoke another cigarette. If you do you will be off again and soon back to your 20+ a day.
Also there is a big danger time at about 3 months post quitting when you really think you have cracked it and then suddenly all the cravings reappear.  You need to be especially careful at this time. This is a well known phenomenon in animal psychology too.


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: Tuhin on January 11, 2011, 12:32:26 PM
I was a smoker once. I just decided to stop smoking and all done.

Tuhin



Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: Adventurer on January 11, 2011, 09:33:28 PM
Now here's a funny story (true) related to smoking ....

This lady wanted a baby. She had been trying with her husband for 5 yrs without any luck. So she prayed for one. her husband said, "prayer works best if you promise to do something in exchange...". So she promised to give up smoking in return. Then she prayed for some help to give up the smoking, adding that she felt she couldn't do it on her own.

That night she had a nightmare  ... the devil was 'shoving' smoke down her throat, into her lungs, more and more and more ... until she woke up gasping for breath.

She wasn't able to face another cigarette after that.

9 months later she conceived .....


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: Beyond Symbols on January 12, 2011, 06:24:33 PM

9 months later she conceived .....

Yes, there is research which confirms that smoking makes conceiving more difficult, regardless of who of the partners smokes. Smoking is thought to impede the egg's transportation to the womb. And in men, I think it decreases the semen amount.


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: RaincloudDance on February 02, 2011, 05:03:07 AM
Hi there!
I have just joined a few minutes ago and saw this page. Very interesting topic, much more info needed on it before you can make up your mind on how to tackle a smoking addiction. I do have the answer and it works, well it does if you know the right way to go about it. Being new to this site,  I don't know what I am allowed to say. But here goes. If anyone wants to stop smoking they can always email me for the correct safe method of giving up smoking and saving money and health issues. See my profile.  :)

Kindest regards
RaincloudDance


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: ScottCofer on February 17, 2011, 02:36:52 AM
As has been stated, it all comes down to a firm decision to be an ex-smoker.  This "decision" process works for any bad habit ...


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: upgradereality on February 20, 2011, 11:28:59 AM
Have you tried EFT  -emotional freedom technique.
It's highly effective.
Get the manual at http://www.eftuniverse.com


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: 0 ranjith on March 17, 2011, 01:48:02 PM
As suggested by a member e cig can help.
However the best way is
Never put a pack of cigarette in your pocket. this is what is known as self control.


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: fine4me on April 22, 2011, 01:49:56 PM
Hello again,

I did stopped smoking a few years back with self control & discipline. Back then I was coping with withdrawal symptoms and my immune systems seemed so weak. I got all sorts of sickness like fever, joint & muscular pain, weakness & fatigue, etc...It was my wife who couldn't take it anymore that she urged me to smoke a few sticks and you guessed right, I'm hoked again ever since. He! He! :-\

I swear I could have done it that time but I couldn't refuse my wife's pleading now she wants me to stop again but now I still don't want to. ;D


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: 0 ranjith on April 24, 2011, 01:18:34 PM
Nah, stand with your face to the wall in the freezing cold and have a full cigarette all by yourself - so boring.

Best regards,
Tess xxx

didn't get what you menat. Is it that one can't enjoy smoking all alone?
-ranjith


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: linD43 on April 26, 2011, 11:30:26 PM
Hello again,

I did stopped smoking a few years back with self control & discipline.

I swear I could have done it that time but I couldn't refuse my wife's pleading now she wants me to stop again but now I still don't want to. ;D

One thing found to be common among smokers, drinkers, gamblers & even some people with weight issues is the presence of something called 'Addictive Heart Energy'.  That is why people who quit smoking often gain weight.  While they have used willpower to resist the cigarettes - the 'Addictive Heart Energy' remains,  so the compulsion just gets switched to food.

Dr. Brad Nelson, (author of the Emotion Code) who discovered this energy found that when he cleared this energy in himself, his life-long 'work-a-holic' tendencies cleared! I cleared this recently in someone who was unable to say NO when asked to volunteer for something. Now he says he finds it easy to say no to the things he really doesn't want to do and has MUCH more free time.  : )

Of course it's not magic (well, Ok, sometimes it is) but it certainly helps.  People I have cleared this energy from often report that the cigarettes just don't taste good anymore.  If your wife wins and you decide to give quitting another try, I'd be glad to test to see if you have  'Addictive Heart Energy'. Clearing it might make it easier next time around.  : )

linda


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: Margueritav on May 03, 2011, 08:33:41 PM
Tough one. For some, simply making the decision is enough, but this is highly dependent on your personality. My husband just decided he wasn't going to smoke anymore and it wasn't an issue for him. He is an all or nothing kind of guy! For others, giving up the addiction can be pure torture.

Everybody is different and different methods will work for different people. I would recommend a combination of approaches.

1. Making a decision not to smoke and having your own personal compelling reason not to is imperative. If smoking is more important to you than your reason, then you don't stand a chance. By focusing on what's more important than smoking when you are having cravings, you have a better chance.

2. Breathe deeply through each craving. Don't try to ignore it, but focus on it intensely and as you breathe out, concentrate on releasing the craving. Take every moment as it comes and remember that every moment you don't have a cigarette, the craving is losing it's power over you.

3. Notice if there is a specific time you have a craving - under stress, bored, lonely, uncertain, anxious, angry, frustrated, with friends. This could point to an emotional trigger that, once released, will eliminate the cravings.

4. Try EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) whilst you are experiencing a craving. Focus on the intensity of the feeling and what it represents for you. Where is the feeling in your body. Express whatever you are feeling during the craving, don't hold back. If you have an emotional trigger, use it for that.

5. NLP is also a very powerful tool. Although I haven't had much experience with it myself, there is a 60 minute quit program in Australia that I believe is extremely effective.

Hope this helps. Definitely you have to want to give up more than you want to smoke. Otherwise the argument is pointless.

All the best with quitting!


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: 0 ranjith on May 04, 2011, 12:54:07 PM
Tough one. For some, simply making the decision is enough, but this is highly dependent on your personality. My husband just decided he wasn't going to smoke anymore and it wasn't an issue for him. He is an all or nothing kind of guy! For others, giving up the addiction can be pure torture.

Everybody is different and different methods will work for different people. I would recommend a combination of approaches.

1. Making a decision not to smoke and having your own personal compelling reason not to is imperative. If smoking is more important to you than your reason, then you don't stand a chance. By focusing on what's more important than smoking when you are having cravings, you have a better chance.

2. Breathe deeply through each craving. Don't try to ignore it, but focus on it intensely and as you breathe out, concentrate on releasing the craving. Take every moment as it comes and remember that every moment you don't have a cigarette, the craving is losing it's power over you.

3. Notice if there is a specific time you have a craving - under stress, bored, lonely, uncertain, anxious, angry, frustrated, with friends. This could point to an emotional trigger that, once released, will eliminate the cravings.

4. Try EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) whilst you are experiencing a craving. Focus on the intensity of the feeling and what it represents for you. Where is the feeling in your body. Express whatever you are feeling during the craving, don't hold back. If you have an emotional trigger, use it for that.

5. NLP is also a very powerful tool. Although I haven't had much experience with it myself, there is a 60 minute quit program in Australia that I believe is extremely effective.

Hope this helps. Definitely you have to want to give up more than you want to smoke. Otherwise the argument is pointless.

All the best with quitting!
I have very much liked the first point. focussing on something else that is much more important to us. That is known as diverting our attention. For example: Imagine you have been knocked down by a bike and bloog is oozing out from your hands. It gives you much pain. But if there is something else much more serious than that, something like a close friend or relative of yours admitted in hospital, you forget your pain as it is only a minor thing and there is something more important. Trying to shift our focus to some other thing might not be that easy but with determination one can do it.

The journey to heartbreaks via happiness (http://alightheartedtalk.blogspot.com/2011/05/journey-to-heart-breaks-via-happiness.html)

-ranjith


Title: Re: Stop smoking....nothing worked for me....
Post by: kimboy on May 10, 2011, 10:08:20 AM
NLP. Anchor smoking a cigarette to feeling realy ill. It can genuinely work but you need to do some studying or maybe even consult someone who has professional experience with NLP (neuro linguistic programming)